If youd ask me to list everything I expected to do while playing Betrayal Legacy I dont think I would have guessed opening portals to other worlds. You have been warned. Liked it? After the final dice rolls we all stood and applauded, capable only of muttering "holy shit" to ourselves. The "traitor" in the Betrayals is a player who's suddenly selected to become an openly evil player halfway through the game. So, players are strategically cooperating, but theres very little of the more interesting tactics which occasionally appeared on the peripheries of previous adventures. But, as noted before, its minor. Learn how your comment data is processed. The fact that the example is something that can happen, is triggered outside of the haunt deck, and comes from almost nowhere is kind of genius. Not all Items can be made into Heirlooms. Folio Infernum: I feel like we HAVE to have missed this. ), Figure 1-2: Our main legacy elements to date: named cards, specifically introduced cards, and the deed. The #1 Reddit source for news, information, and discussion about modern board games and board game culture. Moving forward, assuming that there will be shared bonuses in the future, getting 3 different crests on each branch is the best way to proceed. We werent certain how it would go, but we knew wed end up checking that last box eventually. It was an amazing move. This was a great bit of Legacy because it felt like it permanently changed the house in a way that nothing else did before. We gasped in disbelief when decisions had to be made or some new mechanic was revealed. I still dont know what happened to any of them. The arrival of the Helm. I didnt talk about the inhabitants, the little girl, the Doctor, or so many other things. (Michael.) I'm worried there may be other instructions that we may have missed. Heres an admission: none of us were fans ofBetrayal at House on the Hillgoing into ourBetrayal Legacycampaign. Once weve got that in place, we also do some strategic work with some characters blocking the traitors movement to protect our guy most able to kill the doll. What actually tells you to read entry 206? Right away, Betrayal Legacy shows how it stands apart from the original Betrayal at House on the Hill. Took almost 20 hours to print at 0.08 layer height and 5% infill, but any less would be an affront to the Helm. An Item can only be an Heirloom for one player. Legacy:The Legacy elements also feel more interesting in this game. I was hooked at that moment. This time, one of our number is possessed by their mirror copy from another dimension, who then tries to assimilate the rest of the characters (or else kill them). We would quickly go from friends to enemies once a traitor was revealed. Oops! You can access all my other Betrayal posts HERE. The problem is that theyre very punishing, often causing damage, often pushing the players ever onward, hoping to avoid the worst. So, well see repercussions of this game, mainly in new ways that the house is haunted, for the rest of our campaign. Can anyone explain to me how this is anything other than LAME? As we were approaching the 1900, we joked about how out of place some of the character models would be. Co-op:Betrayal is always a bit of a weird cooperative game in its pre-Haunt phase because youre individually exploring and dont really want to help anyone else when anyone could be the traitor*. But we cant keep making our own fun. In most Legacy games, like PandemicandSeaFall, players are driving the explorations and many of the other changes to the game. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! The core gameplay features are all the same, and while some changes to rules do iron out issues found in Betrayal, each game is largely a similar experience. You have been warned. So, we select for items and against omens, under the theory that its 80% likely to benefit each of us. Co-op: We do something we havent before: we actually cooperate a bit before the Haunt, primarily using a special skill that allows us to somewhat select the house tiles coming up. We all win or lose as a group. With that said, our cooperative experience was a bit subpar: our haunt happened very early, which means that we didnt have much time to collect weapons beforehand. (Spoiler: it wasnt.). Another starts with certain tiles of the board already discovered. Figure 2-2: These characters will remain with us (when we dont murder them). It had become the trophy that we all fought for and it was suddenly gone. Tabletop and card game design. If youve never tried a Betrayal game then I suggest seeking out and giving the original a chance with the knowledge that some of the things that dont work there have been tweaked for the Legacy game. There we go. This was easy to figure out we just didnt realize when it would happen. Then, once during each game, each player can add a sticker, at a time they choose, to reroll their dice, in the hopes of a more favourable outcome. Three to six players take the roles of various character archetypes, such as a Jock, a Final Girl, a Professor, a Fortune Teller, a seemingly sweet little girl or a curious young boy . In other words, its totally on us. but we can't find what? (Mind you, Im not convinced that the particular cards added were that evocative of what happened, but wed see better use of this element a few Chapters down the road. Betrayal Legacy is a gaming experience I will never forget. You're free to disagree, of course, but you would be wrong. This can be for attack, defense, an Event card or a Haunt roll. Though the distribution of ghosts probably affected our play, it wasnt very overt. I was actively trying to get that third check to read story and see the horror unleashed. Geeking out so you dont have to, but ummm, you will anyways, right? I know we're being dumb. Meanwhile, we also knew the house and thus were aware of things like there was an Omen space in the Outside and that the last Ground Floor tile was going to reveal a secret door. We even tried to figure out where to get more modern figures to replace them. Theres lots of good lines in those movies to chant. Ive dug out all of the stuff in every Legacy game Ive bought; I make a point of it when sorting the bits. Each mission is set around 20 years after the previous one, meaning you could be playing the child, niece or cousin of your character from a previous game. Legacy:Obviously, all you can do in the first game of a Legacy campaign is set up Legacy elements. Several of the weapons had a condition, when you kill someone with this weapon check a box. This is one in a series of posts regarding the board game Betrayal Legacy. but Pelase, can someone tell us where we should have started seeing gates. Youre in the house from the original game. Maybe someday I will, but for now Ill let that particular ghost slumber. Betrayal Legacy is a legacy game, based on Betrayal at House on the Hill. There were two more interactive Legacy mechanics. Figure 4-2: We always remember the previous Omen cards, but the rest of the decks have almost no Legacy meaning to us. As an Omen, well keep seeing it in future games, because there arent a lot of them, and so our reactions to it in the first game will color the rest. We maximize our health tactically, and that lets us find the cure in the nick of time. It will contain **Spoilers up to and including Game 4**. That small piece of paranoia was just perfectly placed. Sure, over the course of the game we see a few Legacy items, but they again never get to the right people. We now need to discover which one is the cult leader (step i) before killing them (step ii). But can you only use the the Helm Rerolls on your own dice? Figure 2-1: The rooms are familiar, but the layout is never quite the same; maybe were just confusing by the winding corridors? SPOILER Questions about ending of Betrayal Legacy (spoiler alert!) Asmallbit of additional Legacy was introduced in this second game because the game (theoretically) could be won by either the traitor or the cooperators. We hadnt even come close to filling the thing and here we were getting betrayed by it. More Geek Sites. This time around, we discover theres a secret cult working out of the house, and we need to discover and kill their leader. Event Cards #8. Co-op:This third game introduces a new mechanic: non-player personas who show up in the house at specific rooms. That stickered-over tile, The Chasm, is an entrance to the Otherworlds, which appear as 28 new cards that we add to our box. Cookie Notice But we didint feel like the Legacy added much to the original game, and if anything, it really underplayed and underused its Legacyelements. Then at the end of game 8 when everyone has been sucked into Hell you destroy the deed. The example is playable. So, the Otherworlds could have been the best of the best. Tabletop and card game design. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. We just finished the campaign and I've got a few questions. How many stickers should each player have on the helm when you're finished with setup and actually start playing chapter 3? Theyre also integral to the third Haunt, which (thankfully) adds a second level of complexity to the cooperative play. Legacy:The big Legacy element of this Chapter was the introduction of the Otherworlds, and to be honest, they were overwhelming. Playing the same board game with the same group of players over a dozen times doesn't sound like the best way to spend multiple nights, but the way Betrayal Legacy shifts and changes after each playthrough made every game feel fresh and unique. The introduction of NPCs (non player characters) are another fun addition to the game. I completed this campaign over a year ago and I still remember it with a fondness. We didnt see many of our Legacy items due to a very quick haunt, and werent able to get them to the right people. That said, once you complete the campaign, your copy of Betrayal Legacy can be played infinitely in "Free Play" mode. Killing three people with the Crossbow. Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window), Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window), Click to share on Tumblr (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pocket (Opens in new window), Click to share on Telegram (Opens in new window), Click to share on WhatsApp (Opens in new window), Click to share on Skype (Opens in new window). It's not a surprise that it's in the game, a flap for the package overlaps a section of the insert letting you know it's in the bottom of the box. However, there is a bit of depth: we can stun the furniture while fighting, then drag it to the fire, and we can also INVOKE to move it on its own. One other new bit of Legacy showed up in this fourth game:we learned more about the weird helm that we got at the end of Chapter Two. we looked through the purgatory deck, through the tomb. In the prologue, we explored the House for the first time, then when a Chalice of Insanity was uncovered, we all tried to kill each other under the (false) theory that we were cooperating to kill a hidden traitor. It's even possible to keep your character from a previous game, assuming they made it out of the mission alive. She had to stop them and only needed to kill one thing to do it. I didnt actually realize this until I saw an interview on Geek & Sundry with designer Rob Daviau. This is great since new people playing your copy wont have anything major from the story spoiled for them if they decide to get the game later. It wasn't very clear anywhere I could find. Balanced. Figure 5-1: The Basement got plenty of attention this time. Once you finish the campaign and have fully realized your house there was a warm feeling of finality to the experience. The ghosts increasingly haunting the house possess the furniture this session, and we have to burn it in a fire before it kills us. It will contain **Spoilers up to and including Game 4**. You can only Heirloom a maximum of 9 Items during the Campaign. It was such a great way to walk off. For the purposes of this review you should know that there will be spoilers. This allows our first bit of strategic cooperation, as we run to different locations in the house to reveal these clues. Betrayal Legacy is also smart for what it does and does not take from the original Betrayal. Honestly, were still not thrilled: this second Haunt is so basic. we play the game and win (woohoo) and no rules come up for gates. These are the ten things that really stuck with me when we finished. Chapter Four: 1797 The Haunted Furniture. Im going to try and minimize this for anyone just casually clicking this article by not naming the entries or including photos from the game in progress. One more warning, this post will contain massive spoilers for anyone who hasn't completed the campaign. The person who used the helm the most is a traitor. You have been warned. We do, he does, and the good guys win for the first time ever. John asked her multiple times not to kill anything with it. The first two are thematic characters, whos powers make sense. Legacy games are designed to be played multiple times as each game can alter the experience for the next one. Parts of the house are expanded and destroyed, or otherwise permanently altered based on the outcomes of certain missions. It will contain **Spoilers up to and including Game 2**. Many legacy games are designed for one playthrough of the campaign, and that holds true for Betrayal Legacy. Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window), Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window), Click to share on Tumblr (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pocket (Opens in new window), Click to share on Telegram (Opens in new window), Click to share on WhatsApp (Opens in new window), Click to share on Skype (Opens in new window). Every one of these had three boxes. Privacy Policy. SPOILER Betrayal: Legacy SPOILERS we missed a key part but don't know where *SPOILER* . The game once more degenerates into a big fight, but this time its us vs. him, instead of everyone for himself. And please note that I'm not limiting the discussion to board games. What happens in between games is the most interesting part of Betrayal Legacy. Elegant. You can access all my other Betrayal posts HERE. My niece would still like to play through it and Im considering it still. I was incredibly impressed when I was told to grab that box. . Betrayal Legacy Ending Questions (Spoilers included) One more warning, this post will contain massive spoilers for anyone who hasn't completed the campaign. Legacy: Were back to the core Legacy play being relatively shallow, though our cooperative play helps a few of the Legacy items get to the right people. His family crest is clearly marked on the Deed to the House if we forget. When we started playing Betrayal Legacy last year, I decided to chronicle the entire adventure, to detail how the game has changed over time, and how its co-op and Legacy elements worked. You could even go around so that everyone has a turn being the high priest and starting the chant with baby shark. Not only does the plot of Chapter One paint all of the other families as remembering the massacre of the Prologue, but we also roleplayed it, while the owner of the home, 30 years older, proclaimed her innocence. The design of this insert was so good that it made getting rid of it seem foolish since it organized everything so well, and perfectly held a second box of miniatures for when the game goes from old world aesthetic to a more modern focus. The cooperative and storytelling elements are as good as they were before. InBetrayal Legacy it felt like this slow ramp-up negatively affected two crucial system: the Legacy elements and the cooperative play. While it's tough to talk about Betrayal Legacy without spoiling anything, I can say how my friends and I reacted while playing. Figure P-2: By design, the action was all outside. Obviously it was cursed and anyone who used it was doomed. She was the last person to go before the monsters won. This time one of the characters is possessed by an evil axe-murdering spirit. I feel like this should have been opened when we transformed the elevator, but nothing on the card said to open door 6. Legacy:On our third outing, were just not feeling the Legacy. There were even 14 places to put crests to show who owned it. I enjoyed the game, but havent gotten to a place where Im ready to buy a second copy and go back into that house. Nobody owned the house anymore and the story reflected it. Press J to jump to the feed. The more mechanical Legacy elements didnt impact our play much. As you play through the game youll never find a way to trigger Haunt 0. The way the haunt endscouldbe used to as a Legacy element in future games, but that doesnt occur in the Prologue because its a total railroad, which means theres only one way for it to end. Even inCharterstone, which has some problems with simple play enforcing player tactics, players can at least see the buildings they constructed. We never managed to get the third check on any of the other weapons. Game Reviewer, Story-Teller, Gamer, Hawaiian Shirt Aficionado, He/Him. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. We define a traitor in a co-op game as someone who's purposefully lying in wait, trying to wreck the cooperation. through ALL the events and items. Inhabitants Its probably not giving too much away to say that generic man/woman icons are used for a reason, as there will be new NPCs throughout the campaign. It has to have been mentioned during the final scenario as several of the cards reference the Mundane Elevator specifically so it can't have transformed before that. We define a traitor in a co-op game as someone whos purposefully lying in wait, trying to wreck the cooperation. There just wasnt enough Legacy at the start: it took until our fourth game for us to feel like a Legacy item was effective and to get elements like the helm and the changing house. 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